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State of JS 2025

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Scott Tolinski

The state of JS survey just dropped in February 2026, and there's some interesting stuff about libraries and tools and all of the things that we're using every single day in our code.

Scott Tolinski

And today, we're gonna be breaking down what's interesting about the state of JS 2025.

Wes Bos

there I love doing these because it's such a good read on, like, where devs are at. You know? What tools are they using? What frameworks are they using? What's popping? Because it's it's it's one thing to, like, listen to, like, the hype circles of web development that, you and I perpetuate.

Wes Bos

But it's another thing to actually, like, look at the raw data of, like like, what are people actually using, and what are people enjoying, what are people Scott, like, using, what what has popped in the last year or so of. And there's so much good stuff here, so I'm excited to get in. Yeah. Me too.

Scott Tolinski

Wes do you wanna kick this off? Do we wanna start on the library? There's the the whole section on here for JavaScript features.

Scott Tolinski

As you mentioned Wes we were talking about this preshow, it's gotten kind of less interesting.

Scott Tolinski

Like, oh, okay. We're still talking about nullish coalescing.

Scott Tolinski

Like, okay. We've been talking about that for years. It's been in a lot it's been in JavaScript forever. You know? So JavaScript

Wes Bos

had, like, I don't know, probably six or seven years of, like, major API improvements, and and the actual like, the language itself is starting to get pretty good. And and, like, we certainly have had lots lots of new things, you know, lots of new methods added to it. There's all these, like, immutable methods added to arrays.

Wes Bos

But simply just, like, looking at the stats of these features, it seems like people are not as as, like, dialed in on them as I I think people are a bit more distracted by all the AI stuff going on right now. But that said, the the libraries, the tooling, the bundlers, resources, all of those things that people are using, those have quite a bit, they're not as stagnant as as the actual language features, and I think there's a lot more interesting stuff in that. So we're gonna start into just go straight into the library stuff, and then we'll get into all the build and bundling tools.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. And and so this is the change in, the change popularity over time Wes there's a graph here. For people who are listening on audio, we will describe everything. But it's either way. It's whether you have used it or have not used it, whether you have negative opinions or positive opinions on it. Right? And the most interesting thing about this chart is that so many of these libraries share this same backwards c shape.

Scott Tolinski

It looks like it is a backwards c Wes they start and, you know, peep less people have used them. More people have used them, so it goes up a little bit, and people like it. And then over time, more people have used it or just over time, people hate it more and more and Node, so it goes further and further to the left, forming this backward c. And if you look, just about everything kind of follows that same shape, whether that's express, React, and some of them to a much different degree. Like, Webpacks is crazy. Webpacks is, like, way far to the, negative opinions and have used territory. But what I think is interesting is the ones that don't follow the same shape, particularly down here solid. Now solid is still pretty low in terms of the have used, but solids makes, like, kind of like an s, whereas people are using it. And I think the sentiment I've reached is that people are coming back to it. And, generally, like, we we had that episode about Svelte recently, and one of the comments was like, so it's getting close to being like Solid. It's like trying to catch up to solid Node, and I think solid does have a general sentiment of being a solid choice. Right? Like a a Yeah. And I I I don't mean to be a dad joke about that, but I do think that it is an interesting use case for where, like, I think people are seeing that it is definitely a good choice and solve some of their React issues without being a completely different beast like something like that. To it pretty quickly.

Wes Bos

I feel like the people that use Solid are generally a little bit little bit more advanced Yes. And care about the the nitty gritty. You know? Right? They have a taste. Most people will just kinda, like, default to writing React.

Wes Bos

And then once you you either get really good at React or you you kinda look for something else, and that's kinda where you start dipping into to Vue and Svelte and whatnot.

Scott Tolinski

But, like, I feel like the the folks that pick up Solid are are pretty dialed in on this type of thing, and and they get it. Yeah. Other ones that share a similar kind of s shape, but more higher use territories, v Wes for one. I think v test is still on the way up. People are realizing it's so fast and wonderful. And if you're using Vitez, Vitez just makes sense. Playwright is one of these things that I think people were paying attention to and then maybe over swung on it a little bit. And then now with AI, people are back to using and enjoying Playwright because it's doing a lot of nice automation for them. Another one I noticed in here is Vite in general has a much larger version of this massive s shape. So what what's so interesting about this is that this does typically follow a number of standard shapes. It's like the backward c where something gets popular, and then everybody hates it.

Scott Tolinski

But then what I don't understand is why so many of them have the same s shape where they're they're really, have positive opinions slightly negative the previous year and then positive the the year before that and then, like, the long tail of what would be the boomerang. It's almost like the boomerang is starting to happen, and then it corrected itself back to an s. This, like, backward c is happening, and it pulls it back. But Veet, oh my gosh. Veet is the most popular, most used tool on the planet, and I don't feel like that should be any surprise, folks. That is

Wes Bos

Yeah. My personal experience, that's the way it goes. The one interesting one that popped out to me here is the Angular.

Wes Bos

Yeah.

Wes Bos

What it does is it it kinda had, like, a it it this survey has been around so long that they're they're almost at ten years now. Right? 2016, the data goes back.

Wes Bos

And it started at I haven't used, but not a lot of people had used it, but they're very positive about it. And then it kinda slowly moved towards being more used and negative opinions. But then 2023 got positive again. You know? Swiped right back.

Scott Tolinski

And then the 2024 got more positive, and then 2025 got less. I I don't know what to make. I'd be curious about this Angular chart if it went all the way back to 2013 Wes you could see, like, the true Angular boom. Because people who started aft like, post React don't really understand that, like, everything everyone was picking up was either Everything. Angular or backbone, but it was, like, almost angular. Like, I I remember so many jobs. That was, like, the big thing. And then there's something like mocha MoCA here, which is just, like, on consistent. It's like a straight line to the left from positive to negative. Doesn't even get higher or lower. It just gets Wes reviews over time. So I thought this was interesting, specifically, just because of the the patterns you see in the shapes of things that they do form this backwards c shape, and then some of them form an s shape. And the only ones that really buck that trend, it's like the angular, and Gatsby's kinda crazy. Yeah. Very interesting stuff. Really quickly, the library tier list, if you scroll down to that,

Wes Bos

they have the s, a, b, and c tier.

Wes Bos

And

Scott Tolinski

I don't know if there's a whole lot surprising me here. Right? Like, Vite, Hano, Playwright, Astro, Bun in the s tier. I'm surprised about Astro being in s tier. Not because Astro's bad, but because I often hear people say, I tried to use Astro, and maybe it, like, didn't fit my use case. But in my experience, Wes really like Astro. So but I am surprised that general sentiment is that it's

Wes Bos

so high. I think it's the people that use Astro absolutely love it. And then I just think not enough people are using Astro for for the rest of the stuff. Because if you're looking at what all of your possible options are out there, especially now that a lot of the frameworks have have this whole idea of, like, islands and whatnot.

Wes Bos

Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

I think tier list tier list that's interesting here is that Next. Js is in the c tier, which is the lowest tier.

Scott Tolinski

That's where I would personally, put it. But, like, I'm also a hater. So, like, I'm surprised to see this JS so low when you look at, like, what it's next to. It's next to Gatsby. Like, who's using Gatsby still? Selenium, who's using Selenium? Webpack, like, Mocha, Cypress.

Scott Tolinski

I I'm surprised Cypress is that low. It is kind of like a unique thing, but I I guess most people have, like, jumped to Playwright

Wes Bos

as being the thing. Yeah. Well, if you just think about like, if you look at this list and you ask people, like, what was the most painful part of your career? And it they probably are gonna go back to, like, flaky MoCA Wes, these annoying Cypress Wes, you know, like, oh, Angular one.

Wes Bos

Angular's in the c tier as well. You Node? Webpack configs just constantly, like, breaking and not working.

Wes Bos

Gatsby Gatsby has a crazy, like, fall from grace story, and I think it's just as people's sites got too big. That's what happened to mine. Right? It just came from this a beautiful, static site build to, like, a a huge pain to actually deploy. But next as well is just it's such a divisive framework.

Wes Bos

And and, also, I think a lot of people who don't like React are like they just, like, point at Next. Js and say, React bad, you know, like Scott Oh, React? Here. React has 72%

Scott Tolinski

in the, favorability score, where Next. Js has 55%.

Scott Tolinski

So it's not just React bad.

Wes Bos

Also, like I I would put myself in in that category as well. So I think that makes sense. I I actually

Scott Tolinski

wrote my own bespoke React framework instead of picking up Next just because I found it to perform better using React Router and all kinds of stuff. So I had to deal with custom doing hydration stuff. That was a lot of fun.

Scott Tolinski

I picked that. I was like, oh, I'd rather, hit myself in the foot with a hammer instead of, picking this other tool up.

Wes Bos

Alright. Next one we have here is ratios over time. The prize for the largest relative usage increase goes to Wes and Playwright. So that means, like, so many people are moving their testing setups over, away from what was the one before Playwright? Why am I even forgetting this? Sybarites.

Wes Bos

No.

Wes Bos

Playwright is was a fork of, puppeteer. That's what it was. Oh, puppeteer. Yes. Yeah. And then and V Wes was like it's like MoCA compatible. Right? But the biggest increases that we have here, if you look at the largest increases and the largest decreases JS obviously, v went up, what, 6%.

Wes Bos

ESBuild, a a a 6% increase as well. V test, huge increase. Playwright, big increase. Nest JS coming in this one. I I don't know anybody that uses Nest JS, and and Same. Probably all the comments are gonna get mad at me. Not to say that they they don't

Scott Tolinski

people don't use it, but that's a a surprising thing. Angular thing. I think, Angular folks use.

Wes Bos

Nest. Yeah. You're right. Wes. JS is very popular in Angular community. That's that's also the thing is that sometimes you just aren't in the the same circles as these types of thing. And that's why I love this survey. So you realize, oh, wow. That's a lot more popular.

Scott Tolinski

Oh, yeah. I'm in a bubble for sure. And this is in usage, mind you, because this is just largest increase or decrease in usage. If we look at, like, awareness or interest, these things, like, really change substantially.

Scott Tolinski

So JS far as usage goes, the largest decrease in any of these, it's it's mostly just ones that haven't increased. It it's like there's not, like, a huge downturn in it. Nothing has, like, tanked here, so I don't think there's anything all that interesting there.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Positivity, I think, is an interesting Node, especially be if we looked at that that previous chart where it shows over time, there's that that c shaped curve. You kinda see that exact same shape in some of these Wes it's like instead of being a it looks more like a rainbow Wes, you know, over time, they these things just get less and Wes, popular or, less and less positive sentiment there.

Scott Tolinski

One thing I think is interesting here is always diving into the other front end frameworks because, you know, there's the big boys. There's the, the ones that everybody knows about.

Scott Tolinski

Interestingly enough, there's a 163 people put Astro and other front end frameworks. I don't think that really counts to me. That's like more of a meta framework. But we do have 49, respondents, who voted for Ember here. The the one I think is the most interesting on this list is Ripple.

Scott Tolinski

Ripple being a new one that is not quite really out yet. You can use this thing. And it JS I've been kinda keeping up with this.

Wes Bos

I thought Ripple was you know what Ripple was? And I've been ignoring it all this time. Ripple was like a BlackBerry tool to test, like, BlackBerry apps locally. That's why I have been ignoring it all the time. This is ripple.-ts.com.

Wes Bos

The what what is this? A TypeScript UI framework?

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Ripple is it's inspired by it it's it's it's an entirely unique thing. It is inspired by Svelte Solid and React.

Scott Tolinski

They have an interesting syntax. You'll you'll recognize some of this as being like, it does feel like Svelte mixed with React. If somebody was like, let me take some of this stuff, like the way that state is being done.

Scott Tolinski

It's not being done through, you know, ruins, but there is a track function. And that's you're saying, alright. We're tracking this value. And then there's derived values. There's, like, some symbols because this is a a compiled language. But then in terms of, like, how you're authoring components, you're export exporting a component function kind of.

Scott Tolinski

So it functions it's like a it's its own syntax.

Scott Tolinski

And and so, therefore, it solves some of the issues of Svelte, like, defining multiple components per file, and using them like functions. And then it also solves some of the things of React like it has by default, scope styling. ESLint interesting syntax. It's an interesting language.

Scott Tolinski

It's still very fresh, but I'm in their Discord. I've been, checking this out. I haven't gotten to use it just yet, but it does feel like there's a number of things that are nice about it. So coming in on the chart for probably the very first time with 34 respondents, and I think that the people behind it are are, bright. ESLint, interesting to see that show up.

Wes Bos

Next one is meta framework ratios over time. So this one is pretty clear that Next. Js is is still top dog here. In fact, their usage percentage went up 4%.

Wes Bos

And if you look at their interest or satisfaction, they all went down, which is is kinda interesting. Maybe it's a lot of people just vibe coding stuff, and it uses Next. Js by default. So if we look at usage, Astro's usage has shot up, from 2021,

Scott Tolinski

started at number seven, has gotten all the way up to number two.

Scott Tolinski

Number two.

Scott Tolinski

Number two. You remember, Austin Powers. Astro, number two. And then if you look at awareness, Astro's still pretty low. So for usage being at number two and, awareness is number four, people are like as they're becoming aware of Astro Yarn really liking it. Interest is number one. Satisfaction for Astro is number Node. Knocking off Top Dog's SvelteKit.

Scott Tolinski

My my boy look at how they massacred my boy here. Astro has taken down SvelteKit. SvelteKit's Node number two. And then appreciation, this is interesting.

Scott Tolinski

I don't what is appreciation is the gap between interest and satisfaction.

Scott Tolinski

So Astro's appreciation has gone down which is interesting. It's down to number nine. So people aren't appreciating Astro.

Scott Tolinski

The gap between interest. So positive sentiment among people who have heard of it and satisfaction, positive sentiment amongst people who've used it. Interesting.

Scott Tolinski

And then positivity Astro number one all the way down from number four in 2021

Wes Bos

up to number one. What's really interesting to me here is that TanStack Scott is not on this list at all. Now granted, they they took this survey probably as TANSAX Scott was just in in beta.

Wes Bos

But if you scroll down to other meta frameworks, like, what else are people ESLint? 50% of the people that wrote something in were were using TANSAX start, which is, what, 235 respondents.

Wes Bos

And that's that's quite a bit out of I think 11,000 people took took it. So tan stack start popping, absolutely popping. And then right below that is is tan stack router as well. Like, a lot of people are simply just the core of Tansac Scott is it's it's a router. Right? So that most people are simply just using the Tansac router as their own framework.

Scott Tolinski

Can I give a shout out to my 13 respondents who put in Meteor here? Shout out to those folks.

Scott Tolinski

There's also Vik, v I k e? Never heard of this.

Scott Tolinski

Vik?

Wes Bos

I'm pretty sure we had this conversation last year when we did this this episode.

Wes Bos

Composable framework to build advanced applications with blazing fast quick start next generation.

Scott Tolinski

Your stat your choice. They nail all the words. Blazing flat fast, next generation, DX, unprecedented flexibility.

Scott Tolinski

It it looks like you you bring your own stuff. You you can choose your front end framework or your, back end framework, it looks like, or your your transport AI. Alternative.

Wes Bos

Feek, getting in there. What else? Expo Eleventy Eleventy, 4% lower. I think the we've said this for a couple Yarn now, but the the static site, like, the entire website being a static site generator, seems to have have, like, fully gone away. And then that's not to say that, like, your your site should not have static pages. I I I cache most of my stuff and or pre render it out as static pages.

Wes Bos

But just, like, buying into something where the entire thing is static, and then you realize I you see a little bit of something that's not static. You know? I Node it to be a little bit more flexible, and then you realize, I I probably shouldn't have done this whole thing as static.

Scott Tolinski

I just need a little bit of dynamicness.

Wes Bos

Little bit of dynamism.

Wes Bos

Yes.

Scott Tolinski

Dynamism.

Scott Tolinski

Yes.

Scott Tolinski

A little bit of that. Let's talk I I just wanna hit real quick the meta framework pain point. And the highest pain point for people is excessive complexity, which like yeah. Excessive complexity.

Scott Tolinski

You Node, the things that we're doing, I think there's too many times where we're having to do the same exact thing over and over again. Things feel boilerplatey Wes, like, man, I I I think that simplicity is a a thing we'll continue to see with. With new frameworks, either frameworks doing more for you or because what like, right now, these meta frameworks, they you still need to bring so much stuff to have them be, like, fully usable. Yeah. And then you have to wire that up together. It all feels, like, complex. So Using them all together.

Wes Bos

Yeah. We'll see something there. I I think a lot of the complaints over excessive complexity have to do with individual component, like, caching and and updating individual things. Because, like, in my opinion, one of the best things about React Vercel components in in Next. Js is the ability to fetch data in the component, be able to use React suspense.

Wes Bos

Now you can use the same thing in in Svelte ESLint as Wes, asynchronous Svelte.

Wes Bos

I think that those are fantastic because if you have one thing on your site where it might take a little bit longer or you wanna, like, not cache the entire page, but you wanna just cache, like, one piece of it. For for example, like, I have a footer on my website where the the the data in the footer is live, and I want that to continually be updated maybe every so often. But, like, the blog post itself doesn't need to be rerendered every single time. And there's there's other parts. Right? It doesn't make sense to cache at a page level.

Wes Bos

And the all of the stuff around React suspense and caching and being able to stream from the server to the client, that stuff is both fantastic, but also really hard to wrap your head around and and figure out how to do it right. So I bet a lot of that complexity is I bet a lot of that 14% is is those people.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting stuff in here.

Scott Tolinski

Do people have pain points? Yeah. For sure. Okay. So let's look at you wanted to look at back end frameworks next. Back end frameworks are interesting because, well, a lot of us are using full stack or meta frameworks now. So the folks who are running just straight up back end frameworks, it it does seem like well, it does Node that it does seem like it seems like by this chart, Express is still the top to us. By far. Like, Express far. 80%.

Wes Bos

Nest, 32%.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Express is such a weird one where and, like, I have I have this myself as well where it, like, it's just not worth You have such a huge app. Not necessarily worth, but it's such a big job to move off of the, like, connect Mhmm. Handlers. And especially when you have your your auth and everything just wound into the that as middlewares, it's such a big job to move that into the next generation, which is like like WebRequest, Wes Response, which everything else uses now. Right? Thankfully, I I just moved mine off of Express, and it's it's it's not like, oh, that's so much better. You know? That's the other thing as well. It's like, oh, it's that's nice that it's all on, like, a standard web web Wes, web response.

Wes Bos

Yeah. And I think that's why Express is just so big. You know? Like, there's it's not worth people's time

Scott Tolinski

to to move off of it. But I do have I have noticed personally, some AI defaulting to express for things. Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

And it, like, drives me nuts. I I was doing something, and then I see it's, like, setting up an Express endpoint. And we're I'm I'm in the middle of a SvelteKit site. I have my agents tuned. It knows that it's a SvelteKit site. And it's I'm like, why the f are you doing an express route? It's like, well, we needed a route for the Wes the the API. It's like, brother, you have the whole API system baked into the app. Like, why why you setting up a separate express server? I would never ask you to do that. Deno showing up for the first time in 15%.

Scott Tolinski

I would love to see next Yarn, Hano shooting up and express shooting down, personally. That's what I'd like to see. Yeah. I so I linked up this express Vercel Deno, and you can kinda see

Wes Bos

every single NPM package right now is seeing, like, double numbers, going up right now. Everything is just increasing an insane amount, and that's simply just because there's a lot more people coding right now, and there's a lot more agents just spinning stuff up, and and people are just making projects left and right. So, like, the the fact that both numbers are going up, I think, is is kind of a moot point because but you can see that I don't know. Honnold's Hanold's is biting the heels of that. And, also, Hanold's used in a lot of of the meta framework. Even if you don't know that you're using HONL, it's often it's either Nitro or HONL. Those are the two, like, little web servers that are sitting behind a lot of these frameworks that are being built. Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. It's interesting.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. It it there there is that weird thing now we're experiencing where it's like whatever AI is suggesting is just getting shoehorned into apps.

Wes Bos

Did you see the amplifying dot AI? They had this, they had this, like, stats on what cloud code picks. So what they did is they took a whole bunch of different code examples. Right? They had, like, a a React SPA. They had a back end app. They had, I think, they had a Python app, and they had a Next. Js app. And then they asked it several questions of, like, what should I use for styling? What should I use for components? Where should I host this? What should I use for, error monitoring? And Mhmm. They tracked what Cloud Code gave them, from the different models. And it it's significantly different between the latest Opus update and and the ones that were, what, Sanity 4.5 versus Opus 4.5.

Wes Bos

Like, Express just wiped off the map Really? In the latest one.

Wes Bos

Prisma to Drizzle Wes nuts. Like, it was recommending Prisma. Let's see.

Wes Bos

If you scroll down to where it says where models disagree

Scott Tolinski

Hold on one second. Sorry for the interruption, folks. I had a salad delivery.

Scott Tolinski

Oh.

Scott Tolinski

Homemade naan brand? Scott some I got all kinds of stuff in here. My life is the best. Shout out to Courtney.

Wes Bos

Yeah. So Cool. Look at this. They asked, like, what ORM should I be using? Sonnet four five was Prisma 79% of the time.

Wes Bos

Opus four five was Drizzle 60% of the time, and then Opus four six Drizzle a 100% of the time. So, like, it's clear that they are training these things. Either they're they're taking the, like, the feedback as to, like, when they suggested something, and then they they train the model on it, be like, oh, people didn't want this, or they're simply just like I often wonder if they're just writing these things in I know. Yeah. Straight into it. Because they're they certainly did that for getting rid of the Vercel. You know? In these models, they had to beat the purple out of out of these models, and it the purple is almost entirely gone. It's been replaced with, like, model space fonts and and putting circles around there or border borders around everything. But that was unreal that this is like there's like a clogged code stack now where

Scott Tolinski

it just chooses all of the the entire stack for you. This is fascinating. We'll link this up so people can check this thing out.

Scott Tolinski

Like, authentication, custom DIY. Like, we're better off on this because I always do I I use better off for everything. Yeah. I I do wonder, yeah, how much of this is just from the training Vercel. Like, how are they steering this if at all? Really fascinating stuff. But I gotta say Scott out to, century, number one in observability. It's picked the most amount of times, and I gotta say for good reason because it's excellent. So check it out, century.io/syntax.

Scott Tolinski

Sign up to use the, coupon code Sanity treat, all lowercase, all one get two months for free. I gotta say, man, Wes, speaking of observability, I've been observing my agents.

Scott Tolinski

So I put in Century has AI monitoring, and I've rigged up my agents here. And so, like, let me show you my my open code. I wrote an open code extension to track my agent usage in Century. And so it, like, tells you which session specifically it is working with. It tells you the models. It talks about tool calls. It shows you your tool calls, the average speed and time of the different models. You can filter everything by all this, your requests of different types. You can get the errors coming in from the LLMs and everything in here too. So if you're doing any kind of agent work, whether that is in within your app or in your process, you can actually use Century's AI monitoring to do that for you. It absolutely

Wes Bos

rips. So cool.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. I'm currently

Wes Bos

working on the same common tool call?

Scott Tolinski

My most common tool call. Let's see.

Scott Tolinski

In the we'll do in, the last ninety days, My most common tool call is read. Read.

Wes Bos

And bash.

Wes Bos

Can you does it does it break out bash any any further than that? Oh, it does.

Scott Tolinski

Yes.

Scott Tolinski

Man. I need to get more into this data because there's so much data in here.

Scott Tolinski

Like, Wes, Svelte Auto Fixer called 248 times, tasks, skill, web fetch, edit. Yeah. It's it's interesting stuff. And, again, I'm I'm just really you can see only, like, a a week or two into getting this data. And then now I'm wiring up pi because, man, I'm building a whole dank pi orchestration setup, Wes. Like, of course.

Scott Tolinski

And I gotta have some observability into that. What's it doing? Yeah.

Wes Bos

Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Also, if, like, you know where your your money's going. Right? If if your, tokens are being wasted on specific tool calls, you might not necessarily Node.

Wes Bos

Oh, man. I spent $300 on, like,

Scott Tolinski

the React docs being sent with every call. Exactly. I think that's the thing I'm most excited about with this is, like, really having a handle on, optimizing process.

Scott Tolinski

You know me.

Wes Bos

Alright. Back to state of JS. Let's talk about testing frameworks and and kinda what's being used right now. So if we go down to Wes go to testing tools over time and then filter for the rank just to see what's being popped up. Just, again, still number one. These tools that are so big, sometimes you think, oh, everybody's using V Wes or whatever, but these big tools take a long time to to dethrone. But Yeah. V test coming in at number three.

Wes Bos

Storybook still coming in at number two as well, which is impressive, and Playwright coming up. So that the whole story of the Scott of JS JS Vtest and Playwright are just absolutely climbing. Everybody's using that lately.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's just a big climbs for Playwright.

Scott Tolinski

Big climbs for V Wes. I think V test is still going to keep climbing because you still have a lot of folks who aren't even on feet, which, like, I'm sorry because it's it's just so wonderful. Yeah. I I I find this to be really interesting. BUNTES showing up in here as well.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Really interesting stuff. I don't even think you you don't even need to be on Vite to to make Vite Wes work. Is that true? Yeah. Because, like like, most people have, like, some expect or, like, MoCA. Like, you have some sort of, unit Wes.

Wes Bos

And you in many cases, you can simply just swap these things over. Right? You're using Wes or whatever. You can just swap over the packages, and they will simply just work.

Wes Bos

I I think a lot of the pain people have with with Jest and whatever is that it still needs common JS, and you're compiling your code so that it will run. And now you're testing it against, like, this weird compiled stage, which is not the code that's running in production, and that's a bit of a pain. So seeing people move to v Wes, which is it's testing it as as your code is running.

Wes Bos

Node JS it's running, but it's it's testing it as if it were bundled for production.

Wes Bos

And then also Playwright, whereas you're literally just testing it in the browser, your integration testing. I think people's tests are getting in a much better shape. And, honestly, I feel that as Wes. The between those two tools and

Scott Tolinski

using AI to help you write tests, I feel like the pain of testing is, like, a thousand times less. Yeah. Yeah. And if we look at the pain points, number one being mocking, but performance being number three, which I think those folks who have listed performance could, give v Wes a try.

Scott Tolinski

So other tools here, these are just general libraries. We have Zod up top here.

Scott Tolinski

So shocking amount of people still listing, Lodash.

Scott Tolinski

Bro.

Scott Tolinski

4,000 people. Lodash. Lodash, I'm surprised underscore isn't on here if the Lodash is his heist. Hold on. If we, it is. It's number 12.

Wes Bos

Still 7% of people, using underscore. And I I wonder if this is just like, yeah. I've I've heard of that. I used that at one point, and then I'm gonna put a check on there. But, like, what's more interesting is is which ones have gone up or down. Right? Like, Zod, massive 12% spike in the last in the last year.

Wes Bos

Everybody is realizing, man, I need validation and schema for absolutely everything.

Wes Bos

I think, like, once everybody sort of got in, like, warp was TypeScript filled for a couple years, they're realizing, okay. I I understand that everything is fully typed and validated.

Wes Bos

What else can be Yeah. Fully typed and validated? And that's when you get Node pilled. Node You know what? Mindless. Yeah. Wes know what I find interesting here is that, in a bubble bubble moment here,

Scott Tolinski

effect.

Scott Tolinski

Only 48 respondents responded with effect, and all you hear about is effect effect effect on Twitter. And Yeah. Like, nobody's putting effect down here. Also, archetype, folks. 48 on archetype. Arctype is sick. Y'all have to get on archetype. If you like Zod Valabot. You like archetype and Valabot. Yeah.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Before that's the other thing about these things JS people don't necessarily know what they don't know.

Wes Bos

That's why, like, Moment JS has not been a good choice for what? Five years? Yeah. They'll give you. Yeah. Number four. And then, like, date functions, number three. It's that's still a good choice, but soon, temporal will, will probably replace most of that.

Wes Bos

Lodash, there's some use cases for Lodash here and there. Right? Like, little utility functions, and you're doing especially, you work with a lot of data.

Wes Bos

I think that there's still use case for Lodash there, but not Yeah. This many people. Right? No. I people don't necessarily know the alternatives.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. I pick up, like, just or but I I have JavaScript now. Modern JavaScript is really added to Just writing a function. Yeah. There's Yeah.

Wes Bos

Modern JavaScript has most of the stuff you need.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

Animations and stuff. So Chart JS has a 11 increase.

Scott Tolinski

So Chart JS went from, like, not being on here at all. How does that make you sense? Vercel. I thought

Wes Bos

JS some of these libraries are pushing people to vote because

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Yeah. Chart JS has been around for a long time. I mean, it was one of the first tutorial courses I did on level up tutorials back in, like, twenty twelve, thirteen was Chart JS. So, Three JS, shocking that it's decreased considering Three JS continues to get more impressive every single, day.

Scott Tolinski

GSAP on here at number five.

Scott Tolinski

D three is number three.

Scott Tolinski

I yeah. Motion, formerly Framer Motion on here is number four. Motion's a great library.

Scott Tolinski

Surprising that React Spring is still on this list because, man, React Spring wasn't even fun to use when it came out. And, it's been a long time since then.

Wes Bos

Yeah. I'm glad to see Motion nice and high up here. I wonder if we'll ever see anything different than Three JS, you know? Like, it just seems like such a powerhouse of a library. There's JS there any alternatives to to Three JS? I Wes, it's like built on top of Three. Yes. Everything is, like, built on like, isn't d three built on top of Three. Js?

Scott Tolinski

I don't want to say that.

Wes Bos

Wrong. Oh, no. I'm I'm I'm done. I was thinking about something different. Yeah. I would say I don't give it a a charting library. Yeah. It's like Wes SVG library.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Alright. If we scroll down and look at utilities, like, what people are using, you know, ESLint Prettier. Looks like 90% people still using ESLint, 86% as prettier. We've seen a lot of, like, disruption in this space in the last little bit, namely Biome and auxlin, aux format Scott of coming out and providing compatible APIs or or or simple just like like better APIs that are warp way faster.

Wes Bos

But most people still on old faithful ESLint and Prettier.

Wes Bos

But Biome, 16%, and then Oxlint, 1%. I would.

Wes Bos

If you were to tell me, like, which one is way more popular right now based on just my, like, ears on talking to people, I would say Oxlint.

Wes Bos

But it's Biome is 16 times bigger.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Biome, I think, for being first to market in that regard JS being the nice alternative there. I like Biome. Bio yeah. Biome's fine for me. I I occasionally see the Biome process on my computer going absolutely ape shit. So I don't know what's going on there. So I I personally been looking forward to ESLint because I do feel like their approach is possibly a bit, more a bit more possible for consistency amongst, moving into different frameworks or HTML or CSS. I see it as being a better long term option. I would have to imagine by the time that this says, JS twenty twenty six here, ESLint will be way higher than it is in this one because I I think so as well. Gonna I think it's gonna be a thing that people are gonna discover this year.

Wes Bos

If you're if you've never heard of it, like, OXC is like, it's from the folks at Vite, or I think the, like, creator of it has joined void zero.

Wes Bos

Yeah. And that OXC tool is like it parses and transforms I was gonna say JavaScript, but it parses and transforms languages, you know, like JavaScript, JSX, JSON, HTML, CSS, Vue templates, all all of that stuff. Right? And then when you have a parser and transformer, then you can build things like a linter, like ESLint, or a formatter, like Prettier. And those are the two things. And I I'm kinda glad to see this as well because, like, I feel, like, now that most of the industry has standardized on using Vite, and now everybody's moving to using Vite Wes. And then the next thing is that people are going to be using the ESLint and formatter from that ecosystem. And then what what's next? A JavaScript framework?

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Yeah. And I think the reason why I prefer, the o o o x c is is, like, what they exactly say here JS, ESLint leverages native, Go port of the TypeScript compiler providing full TypeScript compatibility.

Scott Tolinski

JS, by contrast, Biome is to implement its own type inference instead of relying on the TypeScript compiler. To me, using the Go port of TypeScript and actually using TypeScript instead of, writing your own is like that to me seems a more scalable approach.

Scott Tolinski

Also, you can have plugins that are compatible with ESLint with Oxlint.

Scott Tolinski

So, therefore, you know, your ecosystem is is going to be larger. So ESLint to me, very exciting option, something that I'd be, definitely poised to see increase in usage.

Scott Tolinski

JS runtimes, number one is obviously Node JS for people out there. Yeah. I I think there's, like, a weird kind of, like, Twitter subset of, like, people who think that, like, bun is it for everything.

Scott Tolinski

But Node, clearly top dog, top banana still, browser, obviously.

Scott Tolinski

But then Node bun being number three with a huge increase. I have noticed, like, a lot of AI bros, a lot of, like, Node developer types, like, just talk about Bun as being the thing.

Wes Bos

I I feel the same way as well, and I love Bun. I've got many videos on Bun. I use it on a lot of my projects. And how obnoxious the Bun guys on Twitter Yarn, when you post anything about Node, it all it's always just use Bun. Just use Bun. And it seems really big in the, like, like, student area, you know, vibe Node, student area, and it's being obviously, Bun was purchased by Anthropic.

Wes Bos

Will Bun become like a like a like a runtime that like, obviously, it is right Node, but, like, it seems like the place for Bun is people are sticking it in, obviously, cloud code. Right? That's what power powers cloud code. I know Node used to use BUN, and they swapped it out for Node just because they were having issues with with Windows.

Wes Bos

But, like, maybe that's the the move JS that people are BUN is just going to be this, like, nucleus engine that they can stick into products that get shipped.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. I in my experience, I found BUN to be buggy or have issues. And, like, that's just my personal experience. But, like, using the BUN adapter for SvelteKit, Like, occasionally, there's issues there, but, using BUN for OpenClot won't work, so you have to use PNPM or NPM Deno Node. Like, there I I have hit a number of, like, times when BUND just doesn't work, and and I don't know if that's like, I'm just hitting weird edges because I'm on, you know, weird stacks or different things here and there. But I I don't know if that's that's common, but me personally, I that's one, I don't have any problems with Node. Node to me just works. Like That that was the other thing. And I think that if you if you take a look at Dino, Dino's at 11%, went down 1%.

Wes Bos

And I I don't I think that Dino didn't go down because Bun got more popular. I think Deno went down simply because people were fine with Node. Node added a lot of the stuff that we wanted. Right? You can Yeah. You can run TypeScript in Node without a plug in now. You can you can load your environmental variables in without a plug in now. You know, like, a lot of the just like a little paper cuts of Node are solved. And a lot of people warp saying it's fine. It's fast enough. It works great for me, and I'm I'm happy with it. But what else? Cloudflare workers went up 12%.

Wes Bos

The Cloudflare has had a hell of a year just seeing how many people like, almost nobody was using Cloudflare Workers a year ago Yeah.

Wes Bos

According to the survey. I when was my first CloudFlare workers video? Because I feel like I was early.

Wes Bos

Six years ago, I posted a video. Here's what CloudFlare workers do.

Wes Bos

But, obviously, as CloudFlare has pushed their workers' platform more ESLint, like, oh, this this can be used much more than just, like, a little middleware. Now, like, you could build entire apps on it. You got databases and images, and they've email now. Like, they're they're almost, like, the full stack now. So a lot more people are opting to just build straight on that. And they sorted out their, like, running it locally. They have this thing called the the engine behind Cloud for Workers is not node. Right? It's node compatible. It's their own runtime. It's called WorkerD.

Wes Bos

And for the longest time, still still have pain points Wes, like, it doesn't it doesn't work exactly how you would expect it to do locally versus when you deploy it, but they've sorted out a lot of that by allowing you to run WorkerD locally. And you can you hit those issues before you spend three minutes waiting for your build to go through. Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Interesting stuff.

Scott Tolinski

Hosting, I think, is interesting. AWS is top dog for cell, number two.

Scott Tolinski

GitHub Pages is number three. Okay? Netlify, number four. CloudFlare, number five, but a massive increase. I could imagine CloudFlare becoming an easy, number three on this by next year with the I don't know. I'm surprised that CloudFlare JS number five, if we're being honest.

Wes Bos

But I, man Yeah. I think, like, the the people that are using GitHub Pages are doing it because they want somewhere to host their stuff for free. Right? And they're maybe they're sticking it they're building it every single pull request.

Wes Bos

You can do that on Cloudflare now for either free or their, like, $5 plan will cover a lot of it. If you're like, I wanna put this somewhere, but I don't feel like paying for it. Yeah. That's a good spot to throw all of your, like, little one off projects.

Wes Bos

Totally.

Wes Bos

Netlify is still a huge one. Firebase. This is this is odd to me. Firebase was 1%, now is 21%.

Wes Bos

Okay.

Scott Tolinski

What That seems like a weird something weird in the data. Not not like I don't even yeah. I don't know. I don't necessarily understand that. I do know that, like,

Wes Bos

the AI does pick Firebase quite often for building apps. Right? And and especially if you wanna build, like, some quick little real time app, Firebase is huge for that. But and then, also, you can host it on Firebase. That seems crazy, though. Interesting.

Scott Tolinski

Coolify, number 15 on the list with 6%. Hell, yeah. I I like Coolify. I host a lot of stuff on there.

Wes Bos

Text editors, 84% on Versus Node, 26% on Cursor. Man, that's another one that surprises me. If you were to ask me, I you you you you'd ask anybody, and they say, I was on Cursor until January, and now I'm don't even use an editor at all. I just cloud code prompt in my brains and and ship it. Who cares? But that does not seem to be the case here. It seems like Versus Node still massive, massive lead over Cursor.

Scott Tolinski

And that's my experience. I don't I I've never really found Cursor to be that much beyond Versus Code. I know you like it, and I know you have good arguments for that. But Versus Code has always done done the trick for me. The the editor I use most these days is Zed, though, and Zed being number five on the ESLint. Zed is not without its issues. You Node? There's there's, it's still very fresh. But if we're talking, like, performant text editors that are like a GUI based text editor,

Wes Bos

it it's nice. Very nice. I was thinking about you using Zed the other day, and I thought, like, now now's the time to switch your editor because so much is changing. Right? Like, a lot of people don't wanna switch their editor because their ESLint and Prettier finally works when they hit save in our formats, and they don't wanna fuss with it anymore. They're not gonna switch. Right? But now oh, you're gonna you're switching to ESLint or Biome.

Wes Bos

Oh, and you're you're using Cloud Code instead of, like like, GitHub Copilot.

Wes Bos

Like, there's a lot of, like, change happening right now in the tools that you use.

Wes Bos

And when that happens, when you're using a new framework, you're using new formatters, new linters, all that type of stuff, it's not that big of a jump to also switch the the editor. Right? You gotta get your keyboard shortcuts in place, but it's a good good use case.

Wes Bos

Sublime tech who's still using sublime text? Eight eighty nine.

Wes Bos

8% of people still using sublime text. More people using sublime text than Windsurf.

Wes Bos

That is unreal.

Scott Tolinski

That's I mean, I don't I don't know anybody that uses Wind Surf, but, you know, Sublime Text, sure. I I do see people on Reddit be like, it just works for me. It's, you know, it's fine. It's performing. But still I That's, like, still using Text Wrangler in 2026.

Wes Bos

You know, I I actually have some insights into the sublime texts. I have a book on sublime text, or I I did have a book and a a course on sublime text. You do? I deprecated it, three years ago. Put a huge banner. You load the page. There's, like, a huge overlay. This is out of date, totally deprecated, and people still close that and buy it and and don't ask for a refund. And I think it is a lot of Python developers who are in the, like, education Node science space. Mhmm. We're like, that whole, like, Python data science JS, like, a totally different world than, like, Wes development. So, I mean, I think that's who's still using this type of stuff. But then what are they doing taking Scott of JS? Yeah. I don't know what they're doing. They're doing the survey.

Scott Tolinski

Kill to see what's in these, other answers down here, because there's a 179 people who've answered something that's not on here. And I'm I'm just dying to know if anybody put code on it. Well, you can look at the data. Query builder

Wes Bos

I just went through the GraphQL API for Stata JS, which is sick that they give you an API. You can pull the data yourself.

Wes Bos

What do we got here? Quite a few people, eight people using Atom, three people using Android Studio.

Scott Tolinski

K.

Wes Bos

Lots of, like, online Node sandbox, code spaces, Node plus plus. Come on.

Wes Bos

Text who's still using TextMate? That's a lot of people. Vercel using TextMate? TextMate.

Scott Tolinski

Is there anybody put Coda? I gotta know.

Wes Bos

Trey, nobody put Coda.

Scott Tolinski

Okay.

Wes Bos

That's Quite a few people are saying Trey Visual Studio Visual Studio Enterprise, VSCodium.

Wes Bos

That's like the open source fork of Versus Node or the distributed version.

Wes Bos

I'm gonna respond next year to the survey saying I'm using Dreamweaver, but not if they're off the data. Oh, remember Fleet? We are in the beta test for that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wes like the Versus Code competitor from Pnpm Webstorm or Telenet. Storm. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever happened to that? Is the people still doing that?

Scott Tolinski

I asked the folks, because, someone that works at on Webstorm was at our Syntax meetup in San Francisco. Yeah. And I was asking them about that. And the answer was, I think, I think there's Node internal confusion over, what was what there. So

Wes Bos

It's a nice looking editor, but I ain't got time for that.

Scott Tolinski

We also have AI tools, in here where, a large amount of people, 6,000 people put chat g p t as number one.

Scott Tolinski

And, and and those people just plug it into chat g p t, I guess. I would I would recommend that like, I get that's, you know, something that I'll pick up every now and again. But

Wes Bos

yeah. Interesting that it's, like, the number one. That one is probably number one because, like, if you're asking what AI you use, people are gonna be, like, chat g p t and and then they insert their, like, Copilot, 51%, Claude at 44%. And then it's interesting.

Wes Bos

This is a huge amount for Claude versus Cursor. It's almost double what Cursor usage is. Yeah. And this was before the the January clodification of everybody.

Scott Tolinski

The clodification.

Scott Tolinski

Yes. You know? The clover. Clover.

Scott Tolinski

Yes.

Wes Bos

But I would have thought cursor. Cursor, 26%.

Wes Bos

Again, you asked me what is the entire world using.

Scott Tolinski

Two months ago, I would have said cursor. Yeah. No. I wouldn't have. No. I wouldn't I wouldn't have said Cursor. I would have said Copilot. Yeah.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. That's what peep everybody's bagging on Copilot, but they don't realize how much of a, like, a the fact that everybody was already using Versus Node and GitHub, how much of a advantage they have there. Yeah. Meanwhile, OpenCoded,

Scott Tolinski

only 58 respondents at number 14 doesn't even get a point JS a point or zero five Deno five percentage points here.

Scott Tolinski

Okay. I gotta know.

Scott Tolinski

Nearly 1% of the people here put Grok? You're coding with Grok?

Wes Bos

We did I we did a Node video, and I use Grok. What are you doing? Free for, like, three or four months. That's probably why.

Scott Tolinski

My god.

Scott Tolinski

Dude. Oh my god.

Scott Tolinski

That's crazy.

Scott Tolinski

That's shocking to me.

Wes Bos

Give me the Grok coding model. I I like, they have it, I Wes. But, like, where's a Grok CLI?

Scott Tolinski

But if there's all these other things out there that are so much better, what's possessing you to pick that? It's free. It's because it was free. That's a guarantee. That's why. If you if you download install OpenCode,

Wes Bos

it, like for the longest time, it defaulted to Grok because Grok was free. Yeah. And then people were were just using that for everything. And it's it's no longer free, so we'll see what it is next year. I we almost need this, like, what AI tool Yarn you using? We need this, like, every three weeks. Every three weeks. Yes. For sure.

Wes Bos

Also in, like, AI code generation real quick, 0% of people said they are generating a 100% of their code with AI, which is and just the spread in general was much more comforting than I would have thought.

Scott Tolinski

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

The average is 26%.

Scott Tolinski

Or no. The average is 29%.

Wes Bos

29%.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. 29%.

Scott Tolinski

10% of folks are not using any AI. So we do get a lot of comments about people who are like, I'll never touch AI for anything. Yeah. Alright? Well, that JS it's now 10%, and it was It was? 19% last year. Yeah. 20%. So it's gone down by half. So I wouldn't be surprised to see this get cut in half again by next year, folks. Buckle up, folks.

Wes Bos

Cool. Buckle up.

Scott Tolinski

Awards.

Scott Tolinski

We like to vote on these.

Scott Tolinski

The most adopted technology over the past year.

Scott Tolinski

The most adopted. So, like, Veet has been, like, the answer to all of these, like, every year. So you can't be continually the most adopted. Right? I mean, that that No. Can't continue that. I'm gonna say v Wes. Yeah. I'm gonna

Wes Bos

say it's probably v test, and then number two is gonna be Playwright.

Wes Bos

And then it it usually tells you number three as well. Like, those it's so clearly v in Playwright, but, like, what would number three be?

Scott Tolinski

Vite?

Wes Bos

Probably.

Wes Bos

Honestly, I think it probably is. Alright. Three, two, Node.

Wes Bos

Vite Wes.

Wes Bos

Number two,

Scott Tolinski

Playwright. Playwright.

Wes Bos

Number three, TurboPack.

Wes Bos

Yeah. That actually makes sense given TurboPack.

Wes Bos

Dominance that Next. Js has, and Yeah. Now turbo pack is stable. So that actually makes sense. 9% increase. Highest satisfaction.

Wes Bos

Veet.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Probably Veet. This is just the awards go to Vite. Alright. Three oh, no. Should we get second and third place so it's kinda interesting? I already clicked it. Sorry. Okay.

Wes Bos

Well, I haven't looked. I'm gonna I'm gonna look.

Wes Bos

Playwright and view.

Scott Tolinski

K. You were wrong on both. Number two, v Wes.

Scott Tolinski

Number three,

Wes Bos

Node or hono, whatever, however you say it. I see every Japanese word wrong, so don't trust me.

Scott Tolinski

V 98% of its users having a positive opinion about it.

Scott Tolinski

This is the equivalent of, what did Drake say? He said something about, Kendrick just did something. Let's give him a Grammy.

Scott Tolinski

I don't like Drake, and Kendrick deserves those Grammys.

Scott Tolinski

So, Veep, you deserve these Grammys.

Wes Bos

I'll just say that. Deserves those Grammys. Finally.

Wes Bos

You know? Honno getting some love over here. I feel like we've been talking about Honno for years, and now it's it's getting some love here. Highest interest. Orders of the technology developers are most interested in learning once they are aware of it. This is tough.

Scott Tolinski

V Wes.

Wes Bos

Just peep cuts.

Scott Tolinski

I'm gonna say V Wes, then Astro, then, Oh, no.

Wes Bos

I'm a say Playwright.

Wes Bos

It because those are the two big ones. Right? I'm Bos say Playwright. Three two Node, v test.

Wes Bos

Number two, roll down. Makes sense. That's the engine behind v, and then playwright 76% people are interested in. Most Most write ins. Write ins. Tansac start. Pnpm? TANFAC Scott coming in at number two. Number one is FNM. What's that? I know about H and M. Fast Node manager. What?

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. What?

Wes Bos

Oh, what do you what do you use to switch your node versions? I use Npm, and I hate it. I use n, and I love it, except I always forget what the commands are. Yeah. My AI is always like, that's a wrong node version. I'm like, you're using Node, man. Take care of it, brother. You can handle it. You gotta do some work, Scott.

Wes Bos

No.

Wes Bos

Oh, this is cool. I have never had an issue with how fast my switching of Node JS.

Wes Bos

But maybe people who are, like like, running tests against multiple versions of Node, I could see that that being an issue. Put it number one in write ins above tan stack Scott.

Wes Bos

Pnpm.

Wes Bos

Interesting. FML. Although I do have Yeah. Every now and then because I have, like, weird issues with my node where you switch the Npm version.

Wes Bos

Yeah. And it's like, something got wrong. You gotta run this seven

Scott Tolinski

four Node and fix it. It's I don't know why Node will fix it. Vercel managing is horrible for me. So f and m, you're on my radar starting right now. And, the most commented library, which library received the most comments? Library. Next.

Wes Bos

Yeah. Definitely Next. Wes. And Tansac Scott second and

Scott Tolinski

Astro third. Astro second and then it doesn't matter. Three. Next. Js

Wes Bos

Next. Js, 69 comments. Webpack and React.

Wes Bos

Webpack and React. Oh, that's true. People love

Scott Tolinski

bitching about those things. Oh, that makes sense. That's yeah. This is the most bitched about, category here. I will say, Wes, can we just give me an award? I got four of these five correct, and the only one I didn't get right was F and M, and I got TanStack's start as number two. So You

Wes Bos

I've got your finger on the pulse there, Scott.

Scott Tolinski

I I congratulate you. Oh, thank you so much.

Scott Tolinski

I think I've yeah. I know I've done these too many times to just know that the answers to most of them are v and v test. So,

Wes Bos

Well, that is State of Jazz. Props to Sasha for putting that out again. That's always super fun to go through every single year. I am going to go install f and m.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Hey. I'm gonna go install f and m too. Do you have any sick picks you'd like to to get through? I got this for Christmas, and Oh. It's something that I've been wanting forever. And this is a

Wes Bos

battery powered heat gun.

Wes Bos

So heat gun, I use quite a bit. You Node, you got shrink-wrap or if you need to heat something up to take, like, a component off of a board or, surprisingly, one thing I use a lot for is my wife comes home shopping, and there's stickers on it, absolutely everything. And those stickers always come off brutally. Right? You gotta peel it and you gotta get the goo gone. If you just heat them up a little bit, peel they come off way easier.

Wes Bos

And I always get annoyed with my heat gun because it's the same thing with the glue gun. I got a battery powered glue gun as well. I was like, I'm not near an outlet, and I'm doing something where I need to put heat on something.

Wes Bos

And, I was like, you know what? It's it's not as, like like, powerful as, like, a plug in one, and it doesn't run as as as long. But I often don't need it to be super hot. I just need it to be, like, good enough, and I need Node to be wireless. So, I got this one. It takes DeWalt batteries.

Wes Bos

I'll link up the one I I actually ended up getting, and it works awesome. It it surprisingly heats up pretty quickly, and it gets hotter than I like. Probably, like, seven, eight hundred degrees, which is very hot.

Scott Tolinski

That is very hot.

Scott Tolinski

I'm going to sick pick something that I Amazon says I've purchased a lot of times. And, I've sick picked this before, but it's been long enough here that I feel like I should I should mention this thing.

Scott Tolinski

Anker, maker of really nice stuff in general.

Scott Tolinski

The Anker cube is this little cube.

Scott Tolinski

It's currently on sale right now. You can get for $83, but it charges your AirPods on the side here or the AirPods go on the, right top here. It charges your Apple Watch, and then it does MagSafe right here. And it just plugs in with the USB c. So it's the three way charger here. And, man, this is something I just like, this is a gift I buy for people. Like, I got my dad one for his desk. But the best part about these things is that, like, for travel, it just it it shows up in this little cube. Now you got a three way charger that's not some, like, obnoxious crazy shape to fit in your luggage. It packs so nicely because it's this little cube. And since it's just USB c, you can throw your normal any USB c charger on this bad boy.

Wes Bos

Big fan of this device. And it it probably, like, does fast charging. Right? Yeah. Like, it charges your phone fast. That's so key. When you're traveling, you got, like, the the mobile SIM. You know, you had an ESLint, and my battery drains when I've got the the eSIM going in Wes I'm you're obviously Scott maps, and you're you're out and about taking photos.

Wes Bos

And nothing is more important than you're back at the hotel for forty five minutes.

Wes Bos

You know? You gotta you gotta charge your phone as as fast as possible. It's so nice having a you just slap it on there. You charge your watch. That's a key for, for traveling.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Love this thing. So I I've, purchased a number of them for for various folks in my life. But, shout out to Anker for making a cool little cube. Wes, do you have anything else for us? Any parting thoughts? Any final words? That's it. Thanks so much for tuning in. Leave us below what

Wes Bos

your favorite thing of the year was, and we'll catch you in the next one. Subscribe, like, comment, do everything. Peace.

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